Sarah Allin

F
     She married Joel Walker.1

Family

Joel Walker
Child

Citations

  1. [S254] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "James-Sarah Sanders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Teresa's work is very thorough. She carefully references her data. She is explicit about doubts. She states her theory. I believe her work to be trustworthy, especially her Family Group Sheets.

Joseph Fitts

M
     He married Isabel Sanders at Rockingham, North Carolina, USA, on 14 April 1797. Family Group Sheet cites "Marriage records of Rockingham Co., North Carolina"..1

Citations

  1. [S255] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "James-Alice Sanders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done; high confidence in her results.

Claiborn Wall

M
     He married Agnis Sanders at Rockingham, North Carolina, USA, on 5 February 1800. Cited: "Marriage records of Rockingham Co. North Carolina".1

Family

Agnis Sanders b. 9 Apr 1778, d. b Aug 1847

Citations

  1. [S255] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "James-Alice Sanders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done; high confidence in her results.

?Jane Sanders (Saunders)1,2,3,4

F, b. circa 1792
FatherJAMES SANDERS Sr b. 17 Jul 1716, d. 17 May 1834
MotherALICE (?) b. 14 Apr 1741, d. 17 Sep 1809
     ?Jane Sanders (Saunders) Tentative. Although she is not listed in the Sanders Family Bible, it is known that James Sr lived with her when he was over 100 years old. He also deeded her two slaves, Nancy and Lucy, 12 Oct 1810, and another one, Sofae, in 1829 at ages 104 and 113, respectively. So she is a close relative if not a daughter. The census calculations evidence supports her as his daughter and also a birthdate of 1792. If this is indeed the case, then her mother was 51 at her birth and her father was 76. But he did live to just a few months shy of 118.

From Teresa Wilson Wiese's Family Group Sheet evidence:
"Jane is a relative of our Saunders family. James Sr.was living with her on the 1830 Census (We know he was over age 100 at that time, which is also shown on the Census). Certain deeds in Rockingham Co. imply that Jane was a daughter of James, Sr. Additional research is needed to determine the above relationships." A theory of hers is that Jane might have married someone with the surname Saunders, thus keeping her maiden name. "Or was she the daughter-in-law of James Jr. and Sarah marrying an unknown child? [This doesn't fit with the census calculations evidence.] She may even have been a second wife of James Jr. If Sarah died early, James Jr. may have remarried. ... We do know that Sarah lived until at least 1806 (deed). [So this theory doesn't seem to fit.] It is possible that Jane was a wife of John Sanders, son of James Sr. and brother of James Jr. ..."

The Family Group Sheet evidence cites a census record showing that Jane's household in 1830 consisted of "1m. 5-10/1m. 10-15/2m. 15-20/1m. 20-30/1m. 100+/ 1f. 0-5/ 1f. 30-40". The 100+-year-old was James Sr. and the 1f. 30-40 is Jane herself (presumably about 38), leaving a family of 5 male children and 1 female child. Further evidence is cited (deed) that has James Sr deeding her two slaves Nancy and Lucy on 12 Oct 1810, Rockingham Co, NC.

From Teresa Wiese's Lorenzo Dow Sanders evidence: "I ... wonder why Jane was not mentioned in the Bible record. Even if the names were added at a later date (and they probably were), the family at that time would know about Jane. If she had died young, then she might have been forgotten by family members (though Elenor was remembered). But Jane lived for many years and even moved with Reason Saunders and family to Tennessee. A descendant of Jane (Nina) has stated that she believes Jane was not a Sanders but was Jane Galloway before she married into the Sanders family."

The 1850 Giles Co, TN census has Jane Saunders, age 58, F, b NC living with Claibourn Saunders, 25, M, Teamster, b NC. ?Jane was born at North Carolina, USA, circa 1792.1,2,5 She married an unknown person before 1820.2 ?Jane died at Giles, Tennessee, USA.6

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S255] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "James-Alice Sanders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done; high confidence in her results.
  2. [S256] Unknown author, A spreadsheet analysis of James's known children, birthdates, etc compared to known census reports of 1790-1830 yields several reasonable marriage date estimates or bounds. Alvy Ray Smith, 3420 Cascadia Av S, Seattle WA 98144, 14 Nov 1999.
  3. [S278] Unknown author, Email from Teresa Wilson Wiese [e-mail address] to Alvy Smith [e-mail address] and Alvy Ray Smith [e-mail address], 20 Dec 1999.
  4. [S389] Giles Co TN, 1850 Census, Jane Saunders, 58, F, NC.
  5. [S389] Giles Co TN, 1850 Census, Jane Saunders, 58, F, b NC (living with Claibourn Saunders).
  6. [S94] Unknown author, Sanders/Saunders family tree data including: Cover letter dated 11 Nov 1998, ancestor tree for James Sanders Sr, descendants of ?Edward Saunders, 10 family group sheets, sheets from 1810 Rockingham Co NC census and from the 1830 census, copy of Saunders section of "Early Settlers of Alabama" by Col J E Saunders, copy of section from William and Mary College Quaterly Historical Magazine on Saunders family, copy of 1996 letter to Alvy and Edith Smith, copy of J L Saunders section of "Century Review of Maury Co TN 1807-1907" by D P Robbins, copy of Saunders family bible history pages, copy of section from "The Journal of Rockingham County History and Genealogy" on Sanders Mill, copy of obituary for James Saunders from Raleigh Register 17 Jun 1834, copy of deeds record from Fairfax Regional Library.

Jane Saunders

F
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

James Saunders

M
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

William R Saunders

M
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

John Saunders

M, b. circa 1839
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach
     John was born circa 1839.1

Citations

  1. [S94] Unknown author, Sanders/Saunders family tree data including: Cover letter dated 11 Nov 1998, ancestor tree for James Sanders Sr, descendants of ?Edward Saunders, 10 family group sheets, sheets from 1810 Rockingham Co NC census and from the 1830 census, copy of Saunders section of "Early Settlers of Alabama" by Col J E Saunders, copy of section from William and Mary College Quaterly Historical Magazine on Saunders family, copy of 1996 letter to Alvy and Edith Smith, copy of J L Saunders section of "Century Review of Maury Co TN 1807-1907" by D P Robbins, copy of Saunders family bible history pages, copy of section from "The Journal of Rockingham County History and Genealogy" on Sanders Mill, copy of obituary for James Saunders from Raleigh Register 17 Jun 1834, copy of deeds record from Fairfax Regional Library.

Letitia A Saunders

F
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

Thomas J Saunders

M
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

Alfred Saunders

M
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

Robert Turner Saunders

M, b. circa 1847
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach
     Robert was born circa 1847.1

Citations

  1. [S94] Unknown author, Sanders/Saunders family tree data including: Cover letter dated 11 Nov 1998, ancestor tree for James Sanders Sr, descendants of ?Edward Saunders, 10 family group sheets, sheets from 1810 Rockingham Co NC census and from the 1830 census, copy of Saunders section of "Early Settlers of Alabama" by Col J E Saunders, copy of section from William and Mary College Quaterly Historical Magazine on Saunders family, copy of 1996 letter to Alvy and Edith Smith, copy of J L Saunders section of "Century Review of Maury Co TN 1807-1907" by D P Robbins, copy of Saunders family bible history pages, copy of section from "The Journal of Rockingham County History and Genealogy" on Sanders Mill, copy of obituary for James Saunders from Raleigh Register 17 Jun 1834, copy of deeds record from Fairfax Regional Library.

Elizabeth Saunders

F
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

Peter Saunders

M
FatherAlfred W Saunders b. c 1809, d. b Apr 1877
MotherRuth Roach

Claiborne Sanders1

M
Mother?Jane Sanders (Saunders) b. c 1792

Citations

  1. [S94] Unknown author, Sanders/Saunders family tree data including: Cover letter dated 11 Nov 1998, ancestor tree for James Sanders Sr, descendants of ?Edward Saunders, 10 family group sheets, sheets from 1810 Rockingham Co NC census and from the 1830 census, copy of Saunders section of "Early Settlers of Alabama" by Col J E Saunders, copy of section from William and Mary College Quaterly Historical Magazine on Saunders family, copy of 1996 letter to Alvy and Edith Smith, copy of J L Saunders section of "Century Review of Maury Co TN 1807-1907" by D P Robbins, copy of Saunders family bible history pages, copy of section from "The Journal of Rockingham County History and Genealogy" on Sanders Mill, copy of obituary for James Saunders from Raleigh Register 17 Jun 1834, copy of deeds record from Fairfax Regional Library.

Lorenzo Dow Sanders1

M, b. 1813, d. 9 March 1871
Mother?Jane Sanders (Saunders) b. c 1792
     Lorenzo Dow Sanders Many people are named after Lorenzo Dow, a famous traveling preacher in the South in the early 1800s, described as often insane as inspired. Lorenzo was born in 1813.2 He married Ellen Alsey Roach on 30 July 1835.3 Lorenzo died on 9 March 1871 at Rusk, Texas, USA.3

Family

Ellen Alsey Roach
Child

Citations

  1. [S94] Unknown author, Sanders/Saunders family tree data including: Cover letter dated 11 Nov 1998, ancestor tree for James Sanders Sr, descendants of ?Edward Saunders, 10 family group sheets, sheets from 1810 Rockingham Co NC census and from the 1830 census, copy of Saunders section of "Early Settlers of Alabama" by Col J E Saunders, copy of section from William and Mary College Quaterly Historical Magazine on Saunders family, copy of 1996 letter to Alvy and Edith Smith, copy of J L Saunders section of "Century Review of Maury Co TN 1807-1907" by D P Robbins, copy of Saunders family bible history pages, copy of section from "The Journal of Rockingham County History and Genealogy" on Sanders Mill, copy of obituary for James Saunders from Raleigh Register 17 Jun 1834, copy of deeds record from Fairfax Regional Library.
  2. [S278] Unknown author, Email from Teresa Wilson Wiese [e-mail address] to Alvy Smith [e-mail address] and Alvy Ray Smith [e-mail address], 20 Dec 1999, "The following is the information I have on Lorenzo, son of Jane.

    "Lorenzo Dow Sanders b: 1813 d: 9 March 1871 in Rusk Co., Texas
    .. +married Ellen Alsey (May) Roach 30 July 1835
    .....2 Robert M. Sanders b: Abt. 1836
    .....2 Sarah F. Sanders b: Abt. 1838
    .....2 Richard Sanders b: Abt. 1839
    .....2 Mary Jane Sanders b: Abt. 1840 d: 1874
    .........+Edwin Augusta Watkins m: 13 March 1860 in Rusk Co., Texas
    .....2 Lorenzo D. Sanders b: Abt. 1847
    .....2 Martha Ann Sanders b: Abt. 1849

    Sources: 1850 Rockingham Co. NC Census; Linda Vernon; Nina

    Ellen Alsey Roach was the sister of Ruth Roach who married Lorenzo's brother, Alfred."
  3. [S278] Unknown author, Email from Teresa Wilson Wiese [e-mail address] to Alvy Smith [e-mail address] and Alvy Ray Smith [e-mail address], 20 Dec 1999.

Josiah Womack1

M

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S257] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Reason-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent work.

Isabell (?)

F
     She married (?) Hair.1

Family

(?) Hair
Child

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

(?) Hair

M
     He married Isabell (?).1

Family

Isabell (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Daniel Jaggers

M
     He married Alice Saunders before June 1900.1

Family

Alice Saunders b. 25 Jan 1876, d. 1943

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Effie M (?)

F
     She married Robert Lee Saunders circa 1897. "in: Oklahoma?".1

Family

Robert Lee Saunders b. 12 Oct 1879, d. c 1951

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Pearl Parker

F
     She married Emmett Saunders circa 1914. "Bet. 1910 - 1918".1

Family

Emmett Saunders b. 3 Dec 1883, d. 1966

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Pearl Rouse

F
     Pearl was born. She married John Thomas Saunders.1

Family

John Thomas Saunders b. 24 Mar 1886, d. 19 May 1930

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Hiram Edmond Smith

M
     He married Anna Belle Saunders at Ada, Pontotoc, Oklahoma, USA, on 15 February 1913.1

Family

Anna Belle Saunders b. 5 Jul 1894, d. 18 Mar 1964

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

(?) Saunders1

?, d. before 1910
FatherThomas Womack Saunders b. 19 Mar 1852, d. 2 Jun 1909
MotherMary Minnie Hair b. 16 Apr 1861, d. 9 Sep 1926
     (?) was born. (?) Saunders "On the 1910 census, Mary states that she had 9 children, 8 still living." (?) died before 1910.1

Citations

  1. [S258] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Thomas-Mary Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Excellent.

Bertie Saunders

M
FatherRobert Lee Saunders b. 12 Oct 1879, d. c 1951
MotherEffie M (?)

John Saunders1

M, b. circa 1715
Father?ROBERT SAUNDERS b. c 1690, d. a 25 Jun 1766
Mother(?) SPRATLEY
     John Saunders The problem is to establish John as brother to James Sr, and hence Robert as James Sr's father.

From Teresa Wilson Wiese's Robert Saunders Family Group Sheet:

"John Saunders (b. abt. 1715 and m. Sarah Cox) is believed to be the brother of our ancestor James Sanders, b. 1716. John was the son of Robert Saunders (b. abt. 1690, of York and Halifax Co., VA). Mrs. Ann King, who has done extensive research on this Saunders/Sanders family (and is considered by most to be the foremost researcher of the Saunders family of the Southern U.S.), has stated that circumstantial evidence leads her to believe James and John were brothers. James and John both lived near each other in Halifax Co. Virginia (on the South side of Childry's Creek) and both used the same mark on trees (I S - the "I" having a line through the center) to denote their land. (However, the reader should be made aware that the "I" with a line through the center seemed to be a symbol used to denote the letter "J" during this time period. Since both men had the same initials, "J. S.", it is possible they were just using their initials to mark their land. However, in defense of the belief that these men were brothers, a quick glance of other land deeds in this county does not show any other men with the same initials using the same symbols as John and James did, for their mark.It is also very unlikely that two men, with the same surname, who live near (or possibly even next to) each other on the same side of the same creek in the same county at the same time would use the same bymbol to mark their land, if they were not related. Imagine the confusion if both claimed the "Red Oak tree marked with an I.S." denoted their own property!) Another piece of evidence in support of the theory that James and John were brothers (or at least related), is that they both left Virginia and moved to the same area of North Carolina at about the same time. James moved first, arriving by 1767, and John by 1770 (per land deeds in Rockingham Co. N.C. and Halifax Co. VA). The similarity of naming patterns also helps to establish a possible relationship between James and John. Both James and John named sons, Robert, William, James, and John.

"DEEDS:
According to Mrs. King, Nicholas Cox deeded 233 acres to John Saunders and wife Sarah Cox Saunders "on S side of James River, Maple Creek Swamp branch of Muddy Creek, deed dated 1735"
12 May 1759 - Halifax Co., VA - John Saunders of Halifax Co to John Butler of same, 400 acres on south side of Childress Dr., beg at a corner of Dennett & Abraham Abney, along their line south crossing two branches to Davis' corner ... to John Sander's corner. Signed John (I) Sanders (quoted from source (c))
21 Jun 1759 - Halifax Co., VA - John Saunders, Sr. of Halifax Co., to Edward Booker, 370 acs on Stanton River beg. at Wm. Garrot's corner on Chilress Cr.... Joseph May's corner ... up Stanton River to Joseph Eckholl's corner, signed John (I) Saunders wit: Benj. Lankford; Charles Bostick; Jno. Sullens. Rec: 21 June 1759. Sarah wife of John Saunders relinq. her dower right (quoted from source (c))
20 Mar 1760 - Halifax Co., VA - John Sanders of Halifax Co., to Thomas Spragin ... 165 acres, beg at mattox Mayes upper corner on Childreys Cr. ... along his line north ... his cor. while oak ... to Childreys Cr. ... Signed John (I) Saunders. Wit: James Murdock, Tomson Harris, Thomas Spragin; Sarah wife of John relinq. dower Rec: 20 Mar 1760 (quoted from source (c))
8 Jul 1765 - Halifax Co, VA - John Sanders, Sr. of Halifax Co. to Thomas Yuille ... 200 acres ... bounded by Wm. Gaines(?), John Wilies on the south, John Sanders, Jr. on the west, and Dan Ri. on the north ... provided that if sd John Sanders Sr. pay sd Yuille, Murdock and Co. on or before 8 July 1767 140 pounds, with interest, then above sale be void. Signed John (J) Sanders, Sr. (Source (c))
25 June 1766 - Halifax Co., VA - Robert Saunders, son of John and Sarah Saunders, late of York Co. VA, appoints trusty friend and beloved son, John Saunders of Halifax Co., his attorney with full power to act for him. Signed Robert Saunders. Wit: Wm. Roberds, Haman Miller, John Saxon, James Miller Recorded 21 Aug 1766. (as quoted in source (c))
25 June 1766 - Halifax Co., VA - Robert Sanders, son of John and Sarah Sanders, late of York Co., VA, to John Sanders, son of the said Robert Sanders of Halifax Co, for 15 pounds, right title, claim & interest to any tract or tracts of land, legacy, estate, estate inheritance in the Colony of Virginia or elsewhere, by means of his ... or mother or by any other manner whatsoever ... also, all woods, underwoods... Signed Sanders Wit: Wm. Roberts, Haman Miller, John Saxon, Jas. Wilbre(?Milbr) Recorded 21 Aug 1766 (as quoted in source (c))
9 Jan 1768 - Halifax Co., VA - John Sanders Sr. of Halifax to Thomas Yuille james Murdock & co. for 115 pounds & 7 shillings & 6 pence, amount Sanders is indebted to Yuille ... sells Yuille 3 Negroes, Jack, Jucy ... & Sall... a waggon and team consisting of 6 horses, 13 head of cattle, 3 feather beds & furniture & the remainder of Sanders' household furniture ... upton trust. yuille shall after 25 Dec 177? ... as soon thereafter as Yuille thinks proper or Sanders requests them, whichever comes first, sell the all of ... above Negroes & effects for the best price that can be gotten after 10 days' public notice. Signed - John (I) his mark Sanders Sr. Wit: Epa White, John Smith, James Sm... Rec. 21 Jul 1768
6 Aug 1770 - Orange Co. NC and Halifax Co. VA - John Sanders of Orange Co. NC to harman Miller of Halifax, south side of Dan River, about 200 acres, it being part of a larger tract whereof Sanders sold the other part to James Taylor deceased, bounded by James Taylor decd., John Ganch(?), Herman Miller, Signed John (I his mark) Sanders. Wit: William Evans, William Anderson, Jacob Miller, Micajah Watkins. Rec. Aug 16, 1770.

"Sources:
(a)Mrs. Ann P. King, Letters to Teresa Wilson (now Wiese)
(b)Gayle Miller,
(c)Marian Dodson Chiarito, HALIFAX COUNTY VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS, 2,3,4,5, AND 6, 1759-1767: 1986." John was born circa 1715.1 He married Sarah Cox before 1735. "According to Mrs. King, Nicholas Cox deeded 233 acres to John Saunders and wife Sarah Cox Saunders "on S side of James RIver, Maple Creek Swamp branch of Muddy Creek, deed dated 1735" "

So stricktly speaking, the date should be "before the deed of 1735".1

Family

Sarah Cox

Citations

  1. [S259] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Robert Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done, although tenuous.

Mary Saunders1

F
Father?ROBERT SAUNDERS b. c 1690, d. a 25 Jun 1766
Mother(?) SPRATLEY
     Mary was born. She "Mary is listed in the will of her grandfather, John Spratley."

Citations

  1. [S259] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Robert Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done, although tenuous.

?Stephen Saunders1

M
Father?ROBERT SAUNDERS b. c 1690, d. a 25 Jun 1766
Mother(?) SPRATLEY
     ?Stephen was born. He Tentative. "Mrs. King lists a Stephen as a possible child of Robert."

Citations

  1. [S259] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Robert Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done, although tenuous.

Sarah Cox

F
     Sarah was born. She married John Saunders before 1735. "According to Mrs. King, Nicholas Cox deeded 233 acres to John Saunders and wife Sarah Cox Saunders "on S side of James RIver, Maple Creek Swamp branch of Muddy Creek, deed dated 1735" "

So stricktly speaking, the date should be "before the deed of 1735".1

Family

John Saunders b. c 1715

Citations

  1. [S259] Teresa Wilson Wiese, "Robert Saunders, Family Group Sheet", Entry ID: Carefully done, although tenuous.