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     Mary was born on 24 October 1897.^1,2 She married Oscar Frank Burns.^1,3 She resided at Phoenix, Maricopa, Arizona, USA, in 1969. Billups letter ambiguously worded. It could refer to one or both of Mary and Oscar..⁴

     Oscar was born. He married Mary Ethal Hudman.^1,2

     Frank was born at New York, USA, circa 1848.¹ He married Mary Elizabeth "Molly" Smith.² Frank was listed as the head of a family on the in 1880 Census at Bell, Texas, USA.¹

     Phineas was born. He married Cordelia (Cordella) Josephine Smith at Runnels, Texas, USA, on 10 March 1884.^1,2

     Edward Young Billups Billups letter:

"They later lived at 1018 Hawaii Ave. Alamogordo, N. M. (This is my grandparents.)"

Note added by Sherry Thompson who provided the Billups letter. Edward was born on 18 November 1874.² He married Minnie Lois Hudman at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA.³ Edward died on 4 April 1950 at age 75.⁴

     Ernest was born.¹

     Jesse was born.¹ He married Elizabeth Scott.² Jesse died in 1964.³

     Elizabeth was born. She married Jesse Earl Hudman.¹

     Emmett was born.¹ He married Ophelia Maples.² Emmett died in 1936 at Pasadena, Los Angeles, California, USA.³

     Ophelia was born. She married Emmett Eddy Hudman.¹

     Ollie was born.¹ She married Robert Zenker.² She resided at Mount Shasta, Siskiyou, California, USA, in 1969. Probably Mt Shasta, CA, not OR..³

     Robert was born. He married Ollie Josephine Hudman.¹

     Minnie was born at Texas, USA, circa 1874.¹ She married William Carr at Llano, Texas, USA, on 6 March 1893.²

     William was born at Texas, USA, circa 1876.¹

     May was born at Texas, USA, circa 1878.¹

     William was born. He married Minnie K Goodsell at Llano, Texas, USA, on 6 March 1893.¹

     Joseph Berner Cited in Pedigree Resource File, by Gary T Horlacher:

"BOOK: "Annals of Barnerville" by Chauncy Rickard:

The dark and troubled days of the Revolutionary War were raging with bloody fury on the frontier. The Cobleskill settlement had been burned. Cherry Valley had been massacred and the settlement wiped out. Joseph Berner's ambition for an immediate settlement was restrained for a time, while he sojourned with the little which was salvaged of the Cobleskill settlement. Joseph Berner came a single man. During the days of danger and death in the Cobleskill settlement he had met and become enamored with Catharine Borst, daughter of Jacob Borst and sister of Joseph and Lieutenant Jacob Borst who had displayed such outstanding bravery and patriotism in the battle of and burning of the Cobleskill settlement a short time before. When the roar of the Revolutionary canon had ceased and the clouds of death and destruction rolled away, Joseph Berner and Catharine Borst were united in marriage. The groom of 20 years of age with his bride of 22 years of age now came to make the beginning of the Berner settlement, where the residence of Morgan Myers now stands. Here the first clearing was made, and here the pioneer couple began life together about the year 1784."

Schoharie County NYGenWeb Site:

"History of Schoharie County" by William E. Roscoe

CHAPTER XXIII: HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF COBLESKILL

"BERNER SETTLEMENT.

In the orchard near Dr. Werner's residence stand two tomb-stones that mark the graves of Joseph Berner and his wife, the first settlers of the place. Mr. Berner was born in 1755 and settled upon the farm now owned and occupied by Peter Myers, and was soon followed by his brother George. A permanent settlement was not made until the close of the Revolution, as frequent invasions of the enemy made it hazardous, being quite a distance from others. Mrs. Berner was a daughter of Jacob Borst, and sister of Joseph and Lieutenant Jacob. Berner built a grist-mill about the year 1789, where Dr. Werner's barn now stands, and a few years after removed it to the site of the old paper-mill. His son, David I., became the possessor and built a larger mill where the present Quackenboss mill now stands, which was burned. In the year 1810 Joseph Berner placed the first burr stone in his mill that was used upon the Cobleskill, it being removed from Alexander Boyd's mill in Middleburgh, to give room for a larger one, which the increasing grain crop of that section demanded. The early built mills were very small, containing but one run of stone, that being either a common sand-stone or a "Sopus," scarcely over two feet in diameter. Fall and spring freshets made it necessary to rebuild several times within a few years, but not being particular about the architectural beauty of the structures, the losses were not considered heavy. Mr. Berner was fortunate in escaping from the Indians in the winter of 1782, as related by author Simms and verified by Jeremiah Berner, the only son of the old patriot at present living, he having arrived at the age of eighty in full possession of his mental, as well as physical faculties."

The 1790 NY Census for the "town of Schoharry", 202:

Joseph Barner 1 2 4

lists Joseph with 2 sons < 16 (that would be Hannes b 1780 and David b 1784), wife Catharina, and three daughters (which would be Christina, Sophia, and Catharina b 1786). The next child Anna was b 1791.

The 1800 Schoharie Co NY, Cobleskill, Census, 153:

Joseph Berner _ 2 _ _ 1, 2 1 1 _ 1

for Joseph with 2M 10-15 1M 45+, 2F 0-9, 1F 10-15, 1F 16-25, 1F 45+. Our records would have

Joseph Berner 1 1 1 _ 1, 2 2 _ 1 _. Joseph was born at Rhinebeck, Dutchess, New York, USA, on 9 June 1755.^1,3 He married Catharina Borst at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 17 September 1780.^4,5,6 Joseph was listed as the head of a family on the on 2 August 1790 Census at Schoharie, New York, USA.² Joseph was listed as the head of a family on the in 1800 Census at Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA.⁷ Joseph died on 17 March 1833 at Barnerville, Schoharie, New York, USA, at age 77.⁸

     Catharina Borst "Annals of Barnerville" by Chauncy Rickard cites: "Catharine Borst, daughter of Jacob Borst and sister of Joseph and Lieutenant Jacob Borst"

but the following is more accurate:

Abstracts of Wills of Schoharie County, NY From 1820-1832, vol 2, copied and compiled by Gertrude A Barber, 1938, p 1:

"p/316. Johan Balser Horst
Dated Sept 10, 1784 Probated April 18, 1820
Mentions: sons: Michael, Johann Jost, Johannes
daus: Maris Nickels
Elizabeth w Will. Kniskern
Sophia w Henry Heans
Catrina w Joseph Berner
gr c Jacob and daughters children of my son Jacob decd
Executors: Marcus Bellinger
Christian Brown
Witnesses: Mathias Brown
David D Brown
Johanis Koenig"

The deceased son Jacob might be the Lt Jacob mentioned above, but the other names don't match.

And we have a third possibility, from Barker's Schoharie Families CD:

"JOSEPH BERNER ...m SRL 17 Sep 1780 CATHERINE BORST dau of BALTASAR BORST & MARIA (Borst book)."

I believe the will. Catharina was born in 1762. "Annals of Barnerville" by Chauncy Rickard cited: "Catharine Borst, daughter of Jacob Borst and sister of Joseph and Lieutenant Jacob Borst".^2,3 She married Joseph Berner at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 17 September 1780.^4,5,6 Catharina died on 24 April 1834 at Barnerville, Schoharie, New York, USA.²

     Johan was born. He see dau Catharina text for Johan' will. He made a will at Schoharie, New York, USA, on 10 September 1784.¹ Johan's will was probated at Schoharie, New York, USA, on 18 April 1820.¹

     Johan was born.¹

     Jacob was born.¹ Jacob died before 10 September 1784. He is dec'd in his father's will of this date.¹

     Hans (Hannes) J (John) Barner There are a lot of ?'s here because Mr Cady is used for much of the evidence. Unfortunately, Mr Cady is notorious for errors in his work. Nevertheless he is often right too, so at least his information can be taken as a potential starting point for later verification.

Charlotte Taylor Luckhurst transcribed Henry Cady's records and says: "Evidently Mr. Cady considered Berner and Barney the same family." I do too.

I will try consistently to place ?'s before facts backed only by Cady. Hans was born on 4 November 1780.² He was baptized at Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA. Religion: (an unknown value).² He married Anna (?Hannah) Borst on 16 November 1801. Cady is untrustworthy. Here it matches other sources on 3 out of 4 facts, so I am supposing the 4th fact is true too..^2,3,4 Hans died in 1872. Cady fact (implies treat skeptically).¹

     Anna was born on 14 October 1780. Cady fact (be careful).¹ She married Hans (Hannes) J (John) Barner on 16 November 1801. Cady is untrustworthy. Here it matches other sources on 3 out of 4 facts, so I am supposing the 4th fact is true too..^2,3,4 Anna died in 1880. Cady "fact".¹

     He was baptized at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA. Religion: (an unknown value).^3,4,5 David I Barner 1850 NY Census, Schoharie Co, Cobleskill, roll 596, p. 217, dwelling 11, family 29:

David I Barner 66 M [presumably all b NY]
Nancy Barner 48 F
Marthy Dings 12[19?] F

Martha Dings is his granddaughter by daughter Catherine.

Curiously, David appears to be listed in 1850 NY census for Delaware Co too:

1850 NY Census, Delaware Co, Harpersfield, roll 494, p. 164, dwelling 122, family 133:

Joseph H. Barner 32 M W Farmer 2000 NY
Margaret Barner 32 F NY
Mary Barner 3 F NY
Maria Barner 1 F NY
David I. Barner 65 M W Laborer NY
Peter Dins 41 M W Laborer NY

Peter Dings is father of Martha Dings and husband of David I Barner's deceased daughter Catherine. Perhaps David I. was on a visit and got caught by both census takers.
David Dings 17 M W Laborer. David was born at Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 10 September 1784.^3,6,7 He married Christina Kilmer at Lutheran Church, Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 22 April 1810.^3,8 He married Nancy Kilmer. She is in 1850 census.^3,7,9 David was listed as the head of a family on the in 1850 Census at Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA.¹

     She was baptized at Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA. Religion: (an unknown value).^2,3 Catharina Barner Mr Cady has "Catharin [Barney] Oct. 7 1784 married Adam Lawyer Dec. 6 1800 Peter N Hallenbeck Nov. 17 1810" This serves as a good example of why he is distrusted as a source. Primary sources have her birth as 7 Oct 1786, her marriage to Adam Lawyer 14 Jun 1806, and it was her sister Anna who married Peter Halenbeck. Catharina was born at Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 7 October 1786.^2,4 She married Adam Lawyer at Lutheran Church, Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 14 June 1806.^2,5 Catharina Barner died on 3 May 1870 at age 83.⁶ She was buried after 3 May 1870 at Lawyer Cemetery, Carlisle, Schoharie, New York, USA.⁷

     Adam was born on 19 January 1783.¹ He married Catharina Barner at Lutheran Church, Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 14 June 1806.^2,3 Adam Lawyer died on 2 July 1870 at age 87.¹ He was buried after 2 July 1870 at Lawyer Cemetery, Carlisle, Schoharie, New York, USA.¹

     Peter was born. He married Anna (Annatje) Barner (Berner) on 17 November 1810.¹

     Nancy was born at New York, USA, in 1803.¹ She married David I Barner. She is in 1850 census.^1,2,3

     Christina was born in 1796.¹ She married David I Barner at Lutheran Church, Cobleskill, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 22 April 1810.^1,2 Christina died before 1838.¹

     Christina was born at Schoharie, New York, USA, on 28 February 1789.^1,2 She was baptized at Dutch Reformed Church, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, USA, on 3 April 1789. Religion: (an unknown value).^1,2