Letricia Donnell
F
Krystan Donnell
F
Brandyn Donnell
M
Amber Nichole Garcia
F
Ashley Jo Custer
F
George Edward Gililland1
M, b. 22 December 1880, d. 26 June 1953
George Edward Gililland|b. 22 Dec 1880\nd. 26 Jun 1953|p46.htm#i2263|WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND|b. 19 Feb 1841\nd. 13 Dec 1913|p2.htm#i74|ROSETTA MOORE|b. 26 Jan 1850\nd. 17 Dec 1915|p23.htm#i1132|JESSE R. GILILLAND|b. 17 Nov 1819\nd. 15 Oct 1903|p47.htm#i2314|ANN "Annie" SHAW|b. 17 Oct 1817\nd. 1867|p47.htm#i2315|JOHN H. MOORE|b. 1804\nd. a 1870|p47.htm#i2316|MARY MONTAGUE|b. c 1827\nd. c 1870|p47.htm#i2317|
| Father | WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND b. 19 Feb 1841, d. 13 Dec 1913 |
| Mother | ROSETTA MOORE b. 26 Jan 1850, d. 17 Dec 1915 |
George Edward Gililland George divorced Lillie and married Gladys Pendergrass. They had one son - Jim, who died in 1967. He and his wife lived in Carlsbad and even though I did not ever get to meet him, I talked to both of them on the phone. Georgia reports that he was a really fine young man. (by Alvy (2)).
Headstone photo, 25 Nov 2000:
"George E. Gililland
Dec. 22, 1880
June 26, 1953"
Monte Vista Cemetery, Alamogordo. George was born at Kimble, Texas, USA, on 22 December 1880.2,3,4,1 He was the son of WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND and ROSETTA MOORE. He married Lillie Louisa Whidby at Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 1 November 1900. 1979 family group sheet does not give a date; the date comes from the 1982 family group sheet..2,3,5,6 He married Gladys Pendergrass. Evidence is my father's (Alvy (2) Smith) note. See main Text.. George died on 26 June 1953 at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at age 72. The 1979 family group sheet gives death date of 29 Aug 1953. The 1982 gives 26 Jun 1953..2,3,1,7 His body was interred at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Monte Vista Cemetery.1
Headstone photo, 25 Nov 2000:
"George E. Gililland
Dec. 22, 1880
June 26, 1953"
Monte Vista Cemetery, Alamogordo. George was born at Kimble, Texas, USA, on 22 December 1880.2,3,4,1 He was the son of WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND and ROSETTA MOORE. He married Lillie Louisa Whidby at Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 1 November 1900. 1979 family group sheet does not give a date; the date comes from the 1982 family group sheet..2,3,5,6 He married Gladys Pendergrass. Evidence is my father's (Alvy (2) Smith) note. See main Text.. George died on 26 June 1953 at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at age 72. The 1979 family group sheet gives death date of 29 Aug 1953. The 1982 gives 26 Jun 1953..2,3,1,7 His body was interred at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Monte Vista Cemetery.1
Family 1 | Gladys Pendergrass |
| Marriage* | He married Gladys Pendergrass. Evidence is my father's (Alvy (2) Smith) note. See main Text.. |
Family 2 | Lillie Louisa Whidby b. 28 Dec 1879, d. 3 Dec 1945 |
| Marriage* | He married Lillie Louisa Whidby at Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 1 November 1900. 1979 family group sheet does not give a date; the date comes from the 1982 family group sheet..2,3,5,6 |
| Children |
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Citations
- [S597] Unknown author, Headstone, Monte Vista Cem, Alamogordo, Otero Co, NM, for George E Gililland, photo taken by Alvy Ray Smith, 25 Nov 2000.
- [S263] Mrs Lucy Grace Smith Moody, "William-Rozetta Gililland, Family Group Record", Entry ID: High, examined by ward examiners, but better is 1982 family group sheet (by Maurine Webb). The Moody sheet is in the LDS archives in Salt Lake City.
- [S264] Maurine Webb, "Wm-Rosetta Gililland, 1982 Family Group", Entry ID: High, but compare 1979 Moody family group sheet. Cites as sources: US Census Records, Vital Statistics, Personal Interviews.
- [S112] Unknown author, Maureen Webb's extensive data for LDS family records. Over 1400 individuals. Looseleaf binder of Individual Data sheets with opening letter from the author dated 10 Dec 1993. Also contains a section of xerographic reproductions of dozens of family photos., RIN 41: 21 Dec 1880 (as opp to 22 Dec 1880 in other sources).
- [S986] Unknown author, MyFamily.com, The Gililland Family, View New Mexico Gilillands, Melanie Snyder posting, 20 Oct 2001, "m.1 Nov 1900 (Div)."
- [S1211] AZ CO NE NM OR WA Marriages, online <www.genealogy.com>, "George Gililland married Lilly Whidby on Nov 01, 1900 in Otero County, NM," FHL 0928026, item 4.
- [S986] Unknown author, MyFamily.com, The Gililland Family, View New Mexico Gilillands, Melanie Snyder posting, 20 Oct 2001.
Mary Anne Manchester
F
Mary Anne Manchester||p46.htm#i2264|Frederick Manchester||p7.htm#i323|Emeline Parrott|d. a 1890|p7.htm#i322|||||||Abraham Parrott|d. 11 Sep 1814|p7.htm#i315|Mary Frazee||p7.htm#i321|
| Father | Frederick Manchester |
| Mother | Emeline Parrott d. a 1890 |
Henrietta Manchester
F
Henrietta Manchester||p46.htm#i2265|Frederick Manchester||p7.htm#i323|Emeline Parrott|d. a 1890|p7.htm#i322|||||||Abraham Parrott|d. 11 Sep 1814|p7.htm#i315|Mary Frazee||p7.htm#i321|
| Father | Frederick Manchester |
| Mother | Emeline Parrott d. a 1890 |
Sarah Manchester
F
Sarah Manchester||p46.htm#i2266|Frederick Manchester||p7.htm#i323|Emeline Parrott|d. a 1890|p7.htm#i322|||||||Abraham Parrott|d. 11 Sep 1814|p7.htm#i315|Mary Frazee||p7.htm#i321|
| Father | Frederick Manchester |
| Mother | Emeline Parrott d. a 1890 |
Amelia Williamson
F
Amelia was born.1
Citations
- [S12] John Littell, First Settlers, Passaic Valley, p 312.
Augustine Trowbridge
M
Augustine was born. He Spelled Augustin in some of the evidence. He married Phebe M Parrott at New Providence, Essex, New Jersey, USA, on 15 February 1838.1,2,3
Family | Phebe M Parrott d. 1 May 1847 |
| Children |
Citations
- [S13] Unknown author, Dale Parrot Web Page: "Parrott Genealogy": http://npcc.net/~dparrott/parrott_branch.htm, pp96, 314.
- [S178] Unknown author, Phoebe M. PARROTT m Augustin TROWBRIDGE, 15 Feb 1838. Film No.: 457683, downloaded 24 May 1999 from www.familysearch.org.
- [S12] John Littell, First Settlers, Passaic Valley.
Emily Lauren Martin
F
Angela Zann Cathey
F
She married Gerald William Smith at Emory, Rains, Texas, USA, on 17 December 1988.
Elizabeth Jane Ambrose
F
She married Gary Don Gray at La Jolla, San Diego, California, USA, on 24 October 1982.
Leigh Elizabeth Gray
F
Kevin Ambrose Gray
M
Glenda Ross
F
She married George Lewis Gray at Newport, Newport, Rhode Island, USA, on 18 March 1965.
Joseph Emery1
M
Joseph died. Joseph was born. He Aunt Arlien Sifleet's notes, p 29-:
There is a ? after the name Joseph. She says he was a baker in Malmesbury, England. Besides son Thomas, there were two daughters who died in the USA and were buried in the Erie Street Cemetery in Cleveland, which is ``discarded'' and has buildings on it. He married ELIZABETH ALEXANDER before 1846.
There is a ? after the name Joseph. She says he was a baker in Malmesbury, England. Besides son Thomas, there were two daughters who died in the USA and were buried in the Erie Street Cemetery in Cleveland, which is ``discarded'' and has buildings on it. He married ELIZABETH ALEXANDER before 1846.
Family | ELIZABETH ALEXANDER b. 29 Dec 1822, d. 18 Feb 1892 |
| Child |
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Citations
- [S55] Unknown author, A handwritten notebook, compiled by Arlien Sifleet and passed to me (Alvy Ray Smith #112) before her death. Page numbers refer to my computer transcription of her notes.
Thomas Emery1,2,3,4
M, b. circa 1846, d. circa 1918
Thomas Emery|b. c 1846\nd. c 1918|p46.htm#i2278|Joseph Emery||p46.htm#i2277|ELIZABETH ALEXANDER|b. 29 Dec 1822\nd. 18 Feb 1892|p4.htm#i156|||||||||||||
| Father | Joseph Emery |
| Mother | ELIZABETH ALEXANDER b. 29 Dec 1822, d. 18 Feb 1892 |
Thomas Emery He is referred to in Sebella Alexander's will as John Alexander's nephew.
He is referred to as "my beloved Son Thomas Emery" in the will of Elizabeth Sifleet. And as "Thomas Emery Son of my Said Wife" in the will of Thomas Sifleet. He is residing at Bryan OH at the time of the probate of his mother's estate. He is residing at New York City at the time of the latest document in the Sebella Alexander estate papers, dated 24 Aug 1906.
From Arlien Sifleet's notes:
His wife was from Paulding, Ohio and either he or she died at 72 years old, buried in the Great Neck Cemetery, New York. I take it as his death.
Arlien says he is William Sifleet's half-brother, which checks. In detail, p 29- of her notes:
"half-brother Thomas Emery - father a Baker in Malmesbury
b. about 1846 in Eng.
m. Lena Savage from Paulding Ohio
d. at 72 yrs old - buried Great Neck Cemetery
N.Y." Thomas was born at England circa 1846.1 He was the son of Joseph Emery and ELIZABETH ALEXANDER. He married Lena Savage circa 1866. Thomas died circa 1918. His body was interred at Great Neck, Nassau, New York, USA, at Great Neck Cemetery.
He is referred to as "my beloved Son Thomas Emery" in the will of Elizabeth Sifleet. And as "Thomas Emery Son of my Said Wife" in the will of Thomas Sifleet. He is residing at Bryan OH at the time of the probate of his mother's estate. He is residing at New York City at the time of the latest document in the Sebella Alexander estate papers, dated 24 Aug 1906.
From Arlien Sifleet's notes:
His wife was from Paulding, Ohio and either he or she died at 72 years old, buried in the Great Neck Cemetery, New York. I take it as his death.
Arlien says he is William Sifleet's half-brother, which checks. In detail, p 29- of her notes:
"half-brother Thomas Emery - father a Baker in Malmesbury
b. about 1846 in Eng.
m. Lena Savage from Paulding Ohio
d. at 72 yrs old - buried Great Neck Cemetery
N.Y." Thomas was born at England circa 1846.1 He was the son of Joseph Emery and ELIZABETH ALEXANDER. He married Lena Savage circa 1866. Thomas died circa 1918. His body was interred at Great Neck, Nassau, New York, USA, at Great Neck Cemetery.
Citations
- [S55] Unknown author, A handwritten notebook, compiled by Arlien Sifleet and passed to me (Alvy Ray Smith #112) before her death. Page numbers refer to my computer transcription of her notes.
- [S464] Sebella Alexander, Will and Probate.
- [S465] Elizabeth Sifleet, Will and Probate.
- [S466] Thomas Sifleet, Will and Probate.
Lena Savage1
F
She married Thomas Emery circa 1866.
Family | Thomas Emery b. c 1846, d. c 1918 |
Citations
- [S55] Unknown author, A handwritten notebook, compiled by Arlien Sifleet and passed to me (Alvy Ray Smith #112) before her death. Page numbers refer to my computer transcription of her notes.
Barbara Brown
F
Beau (?)
M
Wallace (?)
M
Richard Morrison
M
Elizabeth Morrison
F
Sidney Marshall "Jack" Parker
M
Sidney Marshall "Jack" Parker||p46.htm#i2288|Marshall Warner Parker|b. 4 Aug 1887\nd. 1974|p16.htm#i793|Alice Mae Sanders|b. 7 Oct 1892\nd. c 1992|p10.htm#i462|||||||JEFFERSON JACKSON "Jeff" SANDERS|b. 17 Jan 1863\nd. 9 Oct 1939|p2.htm#i69|Ada M. Williamson|b. 23 Oct 1861\nd. 16 Nov 1915|p10.htm#i459|
| Father | Marshall Warner Parker b. 4 Aug 1887, d. 1974 |
| Mother | Alice Mae Sanders b. 7 Oct 1892, d. c 1992 |
Sidney Marshall Parker
M
He married Carrie Warner in 1884.
Family | |
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Carrie Warner
F
She married Sidney Marshall Parker in 1884.
Family | |
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Edith Parker
F, b. 1885, d. 1983
Edith was born in 1885. Edith died in 1983.
Lucy Lucinda Gililland1,2
F, b. 31 October 1878, d. 12 January 1956
Lucy Lucinda Gililland|b. 31 Oct 1878\nd. 12 Jan 1956|p46.htm#i2292|WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND|b. 19 Feb 1841\nd. 13 Dec 1913|p2.htm#i74|ROSETTA MOORE|b. 26 Jan 1850\nd. 17 Dec 1915|p23.htm#i1132|JESSE R. GILILLAND|b. 17 Nov 1819\nd. 15 Oct 1903|p47.htm#i2314|ANN "Annie" SHAW|b. 17 Oct 1817\nd. 1867|p47.htm#i2315|JOHN H. MOORE|b. 1804\nd. a 1870|p47.htm#i2316|MARY MONTAGUE|b. c 1827\nd. c 1870|p47.htm#i2317|
| Father | WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND b. 19 Feb 1841, d. 13 Dec 1913 |
| Mother | ROSETTA MOORE b. 26 Jan 1850, d. 17 Dec 1915 |
Lucy Lucinda Gililland Alvy (2) Smith reports in a letter dated June 9, 1990 that ``She was quite a character (see p. 194 of ``Tularosa'' by Sonnnichsen - Bob Raley was Aunt Lucy's husband) ... Aunt Lucy lived a hermit's life in a small shack in the Orogrande Mountains - with just her burros and dogs. ... The last time I saw Aunt Lucy ... she showed me a personal letter from Franklin D. Roosevelt thanking her for some ``spy'' work she had done in the desolate Orogrande Mountains [NM]. She resembled my grandmother - short, chunky, a mass of white hair, and she either smoked a pipe or chewed tobacco.'' The ``Tularosa'' reference concerns the famous Fountain murder case in New Mexico which has never been solved and for which much bitterness still exists almost a century later (see James Gililland): ``Again, when Bob Raley, Gililland's brother-in-law, was killed by Bill McNew in the fall of 1915, it was whispered that too much talk about the Fountain case had bought on hard feelings - though the actual bone of contention was a well which both sides claimed.''
--------. Lucy was born at Kimble, Texas, USA, on 31 October 1878.3,1,4,2 She was the daughter of WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND and ROSETTA MOORE. She married Robert Lois Raley at Jarilla, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 11 November 1901. The 1979 evidence (family group sheet) does not give a date or place. The 1982 evidence gives 10 Nov 1901 as date. Snyder: 10 Nov 1901, no place..5,1,4,6,7 Lucy died on 12 January 1956 at El Paso, El Paso, Texas, USA, at age 77. The 1979 evidence gives deathdate of 12 Jan 1956, the 1982 gives 12 Jan 1953. Neither cites a place. The Raley Story book gives 12 Jan 1956, El Paso TX.
Snyder: 12 Jan 1953, no place.1,4,2,7 Her body was interred on 14 January 1956 at El Paso, El Paso, Texas, USA.2
--------. Lucy was born at Kimble, Texas, USA, on 31 October 1878.3,1,4,2 She was the daughter of WILLIAM FRANKLIN GILILLAND and ROSETTA MOORE. She married Robert Lois Raley at Jarilla, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 11 November 1901. The 1979 evidence (family group sheet) does not give a date or place. The 1982 evidence gives 10 Nov 1901 as date. Snyder: 10 Nov 1901, no place..5,1,4,6,7 Lucy died on 12 January 1956 at El Paso, El Paso, Texas, USA, at age 77. The 1979 evidence gives deathdate of 12 Jan 1956, the 1982 gives 12 Jan 1953. Neither cites a place. The Raley Story book gives 12 Jan 1956, El Paso TX.
Snyder: 12 Jan 1953, no place.1,4,2,7 Her body was interred on 14 January 1956 at El Paso, El Paso, Texas, USA.2
Family | Robert Lois Raley b. 9 Oct 1870, d. 23 Sep 1915 |
| Children |
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Citations
- [S263] Mrs Lucy Grace Smith Moody, "William-Rozetta Gililland, Family Group Record", Entry ID: High, examined by ward examiners, but better is 1982 family group sheet (by Maurine Webb). The Moody sheet is in the LDS archives in Salt Lake City.
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story.
- [S146] Unknown author, IGI Record: Birth Event: Lucy Lucinda Gililland. Batch number: 7411402, Sheet: 12.
- [S264] Maurine Webb, "Wm-Rosetta Gililland, 1982 Family Group", Entry ID: High, but compare 1979 Moody family group sheet. Cites as sources: US Census Records, Vital Statistics, Personal Interviews.
- [S147] Unknown author, IGI Record: Marriage: Lucy Lucinda Gililland to Robert L Raley. Batch Number: T904200.
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story, Family group sheet for "any Raley child" gives the marriage date as 10 Nov 1901.
- [S986] Unknown author, MyFamily.com, The Gililland Family, View New Mexico Gilillands, Melanie Snyder posting, 20 Oct 2001.
Robert Lois Raley1,2
M, b. 9 October 1870, d. 23 September 1915
Robert Lois Raley|b. 9 Oct 1870\nd. 23 Sep 1915|p46.htm#i2293|Samuel G B "Green" Raley|b. c 1829\nd. 1901|p175.htm#i8741|Mary A Lemons|b. c 1833\nd. 1872|p175.htm#i8742|||||||||||||
| Father | Samuel G B "Green" Raley b. c 1829, d. 1901 |
| Mother | Mary A Lemons b. c 1833, d. 1872 |
Robert Lois Raley The following is from the Alamogordo Daily News, May 10, 1990:
"Elizabeth's father was kind of like 'Little Joe the Wrangler', she said. He was an orphan and placed in an orphanage at a very early age. When he was 11 years old he ran away from the orphanage and headed west. He worked on ranches and the trail hers that spanned across Texas. "When he arrived in New Mexico as a young man, he worked on the Oliver M. Lee ranch and through his friend Jim Gilliland, he met Jim's sister Lucy. "He wasn't a very handsome man and as he and Lucy were dancing one night, he told her she was the prettiest girl he had ever seen. Lucy said, 'Well, Bob, I wish I could say the same about you.' "Bob replied, 'Now, Lucy, you could if you would lie like I did.'"
The following is from a letter, about Bob Raley's murder, from Maurine Webb to my Father [Alvy Smith (2)], dated 18 Jul 1990:
"In Orogrande [NM], in 1915, there was only one telephone. Bob & Lucy Raley and 7 children lived about 3 miles from this telephone. They lived in Lucky Flat and the phone was installed in the Calthorp home near the R.R. depot.
A messenger brought word to Bob that his lawyer from Alamo[gordo] was going to call him on the telephone at about noon so Bob hitched up the buggy, because Lucy insisted on going with him, and left home for the Calthorp house.
He parked the buggy in front of the house, helped Lucy out, she was pregnant, opened the fence gate to go in & was shot by a rifle over the left eye. Another shot, intended for Lucy, missed both ... because Lucy grabbed Bob & fell with him or she would have been killed also. Bill McNew was lying on the floor aiming the rifle out the front door, his son George, who lives in Las Cruces, wrote a letter describing these events.
Somehow the screen door with 2 bullet hole punches ended up on Lucy's screened in porch and she often pointed to them saying 'this one was Bob's and this one was mine.' The door was turned upside down when it was put on the porch so the patches were near the top. "Grandmother Lucy said Bob's blood stained the street in front of Calthorps for years."
My father Alvy Smith [96] says in a letter dated 19 Jul 1990 the following about the story above:
"Maurine's version was closer to what I have heard. Dad and Mom lived in an old house in Orogrande, not far from the RR depot. There were bullet holes in the door - and Dad said they were made when Bill McNew shot Bob Raley. Re: George McNew - Maurine's ltr. He was rough ranch boy - brought up at Orogrande. Went to NMSU (NM A&M) - straight A student in biology - PhD from Iowa State - For many years either Pres or Dean at Cornell - finished out his career as Director of a think tank in NY - has retired to Las Cruces. Perry McNew - Grandson of Bill McNew, George's nephew - was my roommate at NMSU for awhile."
----His father: Samuel G.B.Raley, born 1829: His mother: Mary Ann Lemons
The following is from Josh Crook of Socorro, NM:
"In case you didn't know, the reason that some locality records are listed as "Jarilla, NM" and others "Orogrande" reflects the time periods. Originally, the district was known as Silver Hill or the Jarilla District for the Jarilla Mountains where the area is located. In June, 1904, a 6.5 ounce gold nugget was found on one of the gold placer
claims. Later, a newspaper man dubbed the discovery oro grande (big gold in Spanish)--see the article in New Mexico Magazine, v. 42, #3, p. 2-5 (1964). Eventually, the name Orogrande stuck. In other words, the record of those who were born or died in that area before about 1905-6 would have lived in Jarilla. Whereas, later, the identical area was called Orogrande. When Fayette Jones (professor and, by then, former president) of the NM School of Mines described the district in July 1904, it was still called Jarilla (Silver Hill). However, the records that I have seen from several mining companies of 1906-1907 call it Orogrande. The first time the name Orogrande was used in the El Paso Herald (from the information that I have) was September 12, 1906.
Bob and Lucy Raley who lived in Lucky Flat lived about 4 miles NW of the present town of Orogrande. According to some of the old records (WWII era--Lawson Entwisle's geologic map of the area) Lucky Flat was located just north of the May and Lucky mines. The Lucky Mine was one of the more well-known mines in the district. The site of Lucky Flat is in the central and southernmost 40 acres of Sec 3, T 22S, R8E, NMPM (see Orogrande North topo sheet--The Lucky is incorrectly called the Garnet Mine on this map). Today, there is little more than rusty garbage in that area. My senior thesis area was on a mining claim about 1/4 mile NW of the Lucky Flat site."
Robert was born at Jasper, Jasper, Texas, USA, on 9 October 1870.3 He was the son of Samuel G B "Green" Raley and Mary A Lemons. He married Lucy Lucinda Gililland at Jarilla, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 11 November 1901. The 1979 evidence (family group sheet) does not give a date or place. The 1982 evidence gives 10 Nov 1901 as date. Snyder: 10 Nov 1901, no place..4,5,6,7,8 Robert died on 23 September 1915 at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at age 44. Snyder gives 3 Sep 1915, NM.9,10 His body was interred on 24 September 1915 at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA.1
"Elizabeth's father was kind of like 'Little Joe the Wrangler', she said. He was an orphan and placed in an orphanage at a very early age. When he was 11 years old he ran away from the orphanage and headed west. He worked on ranches and the trail hers that spanned across Texas. "When he arrived in New Mexico as a young man, he worked on the Oliver M. Lee ranch and through his friend Jim Gilliland, he met Jim's sister Lucy. "He wasn't a very handsome man and as he and Lucy were dancing one night, he told her she was the prettiest girl he had ever seen. Lucy said, 'Well, Bob, I wish I could say the same about you.' "Bob replied, 'Now, Lucy, you could if you would lie like I did.'"
The following is from a letter, about Bob Raley's murder, from Maurine Webb to my Father [Alvy Smith (2)], dated 18 Jul 1990:
"In Orogrande [NM], in 1915, there was only one telephone. Bob & Lucy Raley and 7 children lived about 3 miles from this telephone. They lived in Lucky Flat and the phone was installed in the Calthorp home near the R.R. depot.
A messenger brought word to Bob that his lawyer from Alamo[gordo] was going to call him on the telephone at about noon so Bob hitched up the buggy, because Lucy insisted on going with him, and left home for the Calthorp house.
He parked the buggy in front of the house, helped Lucy out, she was pregnant, opened the fence gate to go in & was shot by a rifle over the left eye. Another shot, intended for Lucy, missed both ... because Lucy grabbed Bob & fell with him or she would have been killed also. Bill McNew was lying on the floor aiming the rifle out the front door, his son George, who lives in Las Cruces, wrote a letter describing these events.
Somehow the screen door with 2 bullet hole punches ended up on Lucy's screened in porch and she often pointed to them saying 'this one was Bob's and this one was mine.' The door was turned upside down when it was put on the porch so the patches were near the top. "Grandmother Lucy said Bob's blood stained the street in front of Calthorps for years."
My father Alvy Smith [96] says in a letter dated 19 Jul 1990 the following about the story above:
"Maurine's version was closer to what I have heard. Dad and Mom lived in an old house in Orogrande, not far from the RR depot. There were bullet holes in the door - and Dad said they were made when Bill McNew shot Bob Raley. Re: George McNew - Maurine's ltr. He was rough ranch boy - brought up at Orogrande. Went to NMSU (NM A&M) - straight A student in biology - PhD from Iowa State - For many years either Pres or Dean at Cornell - finished out his career as Director of a think tank in NY - has retired to Las Cruces. Perry McNew - Grandson of Bill McNew, George's nephew - was my roommate at NMSU for awhile."
----His father: Samuel G.B.Raley, born 1829: His mother: Mary Ann Lemons
The following is from Josh Crook of Socorro, NM:
"In case you didn't know, the reason that some locality records are listed as "Jarilla, NM" and others "Orogrande" reflects the time periods. Originally, the district was known as Silver Hill or the Jarilla District for the Jarilla Mountains where the area is located. In June, 1904, a 6.5 ounce gold nugget was found on one of the gold placer
claims. Later, a newspaper man dubbed the discovery oro grande (big gold in Spanish)--see the article in New Mexico Magazine, v. 42, #3, p. 2-5 (1964). Eventually, the name Orogrande stuck. In other words, the record of those who were born or died in that area before about 1905-6 would have lived in Jarilla. Whereas, later, the identical area was called Orogrande. When Fayette Jones (professor and, by then, former president) of the NM School of Mines described the district in July 1904, it was still called Jarilla (Silver Hill). However, the records that I have seen from several mining companies of 1906-1907 call it Orogrande. The first time the name Orogrande was used in the El Paso Herald (from the information that I have) was September 12, 1906.
Bob and Lucy Raley who lived in Lucky Flat lived about 4 miles NW of the present town of Orogrande. According to some of the old records (WWII era--Lawson Entwisle's geologic map of the area) Lucky Flat was located just north of the May and Lucky mines. The Lucky Mine was one of the more well-known mines in the district. The site of Lucky Flat is in the central and southernmost 40 acres of Sec 3, T 22S, R8E, NMPM (see Orogrande North topo sheet--The Lucky is incorrectly called the Garnet Mine on this map). Today, there is little more than rusty garbage in that area. My senior thesis area was on a mining claim about 1/4 mile NW of the Lucky Flat site."
Robert was born at Jasper, Jasper, Texas, USA, on 9 October 1870.3 He was the son of Samuel G B "Green" Raley and Mary A Lemons. He married Lucy Lucinda Gililland at Jarilla, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 11 November 1901. The 1979 evidence (family group sheet) does not give a date or place. The 1982 evidence gives 10 Nov 1901 as date. Snyder: 10 Nov 1901, no place..4,5,6,7,8 Robert died on 23 September 1915 at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at age 44. Snyder gives 3 Sep 1915, NM.9,10 His body was interred on 24 September 1915 at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA.1
Family | Lucy Lucinda Gililland b. 31 Oct 1878, d. 12 Jan 1956 |
| Children |
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Citations
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story.
- [S1022] Unknown author, Josh Crook email from e-mail address to e-mail address, 22 Nov 2001, "FYI on Jarilla/Orogrande, NM."
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story, Family group sheet for "any Raley child" gives his birthdate as 8 Oct 1870.
- [S147] Unknown author, IGI Record: Marriage: Lucy Lucinda Gililland to Robert L Raley. Batch Number: T904200.
- [S263] Mrs Lucy Grace Smith Moody, "William-Rozetta Gililland, Family Group Record", Entry ID: High, examined by ward examiners, but better is 1982 family group sheet (by Maurine Webb). The Moody sheet is in the LDS archives in Salt Lake City.
- [S264] Maurine Webb, "Wm-Rosetta Gililland, 1982 Family Group", Entry ID: High, but compare 1979 Moody family group sheet. Cites as sources: US Census Records, Vital Statistics, Personal Interviews.
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story, Family group sheet for "any Raley child" gives the marriage date as 10 Nov 1901.
- [S986] Unknown author, MyFamily.com, The Gililland Family, View New Mexico Gilillands, Melanie Snyder posting, 20 Oct 2001.
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story, Family group sheet for "any Raley child."
- [S986] Unknown author, MyFamily.com, The Gililland Family, View New Mexico Gilillands, Melanie Snyder posting, 20 Oct 2001, "d. 3 Sep 1915-NM."
Elizabeth Eva Raley1
F, b. 23 April 1904, d. 29 November 1992
Elizabeth Eva Raley|b. 23 Apr 1904\nd. 29 Nov 1992|p46.htm#i2294|Robert Lois Raley|b. 9 Oct 1870\nd. 23 Sep 1915|p46.htm#i2293|Lucy Lucinda Gililland|b. 31 Oct 1878\nd. 12 Jan 1956|p46.htm#i2292|Samuel G B "Green" Raley|b. c 1829\nd. 1901|p175.htm#i8741|Mary A. Lemons|b. c 1833\nd. 1872|p175.htm#i8742|WILLIAM F. GILILLAND|b. 19 Feb 1841\nd. 13 Dec 1913|p2.htm#i74|ROSETTA MOORE|b. 26 Jan 1850\nd. 17 Dec 1915|p23.htm#i1132|
| Father | Robert Lois Raley b. 9 Oct 1870, d. 23 Sep 1915 |
| Mother | Lucy Lucinda Gililland b. 31 Oct 1878, d. 12 Jan 1956 |
Elizabeth Eva Raley She was my father's [Alvy (2)] elementary school teacher in Mayhill, NM. The following is from an interview with her and her husband Loyd published in the Alamogordo Daily News, 10 May 1990: "On the day Elizabeth decided to make her appearance, there was a terrible dust storm. There was so much dust in the air that her father couldn't find the horses to take his wife to the doctor. After a long search he found them and took Lucy to Orogrande, but the doctor had gone to El Paso. They decided to go to Alamogordo on the train, which arrived late at midnight. The railroad tracks were covered with sand and the train could get no traction and the workmen had to stop and clear the tracks every few miles. The train finally arrived in Alamogordo just as the sun was making its appearance and so did Elizabeth." (Elizabeth was 11 when her father was murdered. See his entry.) Maurine Webb, who is a source of some of this family data, is her niece. Elizabeth was born at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 23 April 1904.2,1 She was the daughter of Robert Lois Raley and Lucy Lucinda Gililland. She married Robert Loyd (Lloyd) Posey at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 4 May 1926.2,1 Elizabeth died on 29 November 1992 at age 88.2 Her body was interred at Mayhill, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Mayhill Cemetery.3
Family | Robert Loyd (Lloyd) Posey b. 28 Jan 1906, d. 20 Nov 1994 |
| Child |
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Citations
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story.
- [S458] Unknown author, A set of 8 color photos, taken 10 Jun 2000, by Alvy (3) Ray Smith, in the company of Alvy (2) R Smith, of tombstones in the Mayhill Cemetery: Scotts, Gilillands, Smiths, Poseys, Raleys, and Millers.
- [S458] Unknown author, A set of 8 color photos, taken 10 Jun 2000, by Alvy (3) Ray Smith, in the company of Alvy (2) R Smith, of tombstones in the Mayhill Cemetery: Scotts, Gilillands, Smiths, Poseys, Raleys, and Millers., "POSEY
[married] May 4, 1926
ELIZABETH R.
April 23, 1904
Nov. 29, 1992"
(shared with Loyd Posey).
Robert Loyd (Lloyd) Posey
M, b. 28 January 1906, d. 20 November 1994
Robert was born on 28 January 1906.1 He married Elizabeth Eva Raley at Alamogordo, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 4 May 1926.1,2 Robert died on 20 November 1994 at age 88.1 His body was interred at Mayhill, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Mayhill Cemetery.3
Family | Elizabeth Eva Raley b. 23 Apr 1904, d. 29 Nov 1992 |
| Child |
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Citations
- [S458] Unknown author, A set of 8 color photos, taken 10 Jun 2000, by Alvy (3) Ray Smith, in the company of Alvy (2) R Smith, of tombstones in the Mayhill Cemetery: Scotts, Gilillands, Smiths, Poseys, Raleys, and Millers.
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story.
- [S458] Unknown author, A set of 8 color photos, taken 10 Jun 2000, by Alvy (3) Ray Smith, in the company of Alvy (2) R Smith, of tombstones in the Mayhill Cemetery: Scotts, Gilillands, Smiths, Poseys, Raleys, and Millers., "POSEY
LOYD
Jan. 28, 1906
Nov. 20, 1994
[married] May 4, 1926"
(shared with Elizabeth).
Martha Angie Raley1
F
Martha Angie Raley||p46.htm#i2296|Robert Lois Raley|b. 9 Oct 1870\nd. 23 Sep 1915|p46.htm#i2293|Lucy Lucinda Gililland|b. 31 Oct 1878\nd. 12 Jan 1956|p46.htm#i2292|Samuel G B "Green" Raley|b. c 1829\nd. 1901|p175.htm#i8741|Mary A. Lemons|b. c 1833\nd. 1872|p175.htm#i8742|WILLIAM F. GILILLAND|b. 19 Feb 1841\nd. 13 Dec 1913|p2.htm#i74|ROSETTA MOORE|b. 26 Jan 1850\nd. 17 Dec 1915|p23.htm#i1132|
| Father | Robert Lois Raley b. 9 Oct 1870, d. 23 Sep 1915 |
| Mother | Lucy Lucinda Gililland b. 31 Oct 1878, d. 12 Jan 1956 |
Martha Angie Raley is the daughter of Robert Lois Raley and Lucy Lucinda Gililland. She married Lynn De Arman on 31 January 1929.1
Citations
- [S483] Maurine Webb, A Raley Story.
Richard Lafayette Raley1,2
M, b. 19 August 1908, d. 19 November 1971
Richard Lafayette Raley|b. 19 Aug 1908\nd. 19 Nov 1971|p46.htm#i2297|Robert Lois Raley|b. 9 Oct 1870\nd. 23 Sep 1915|p46.htm#i2293|Lucy Lucinda Gililland|b. 31 Oct 1878\nd. 12 Jan 1956|p46.htm#i2292|Samuel G B "Green" Raley|b. c 1829\nd. 1901|p175.htm#i8741|Mary A. Lemons|b. c 1833\nd. 1872|p175.htm#i8742|WILLIAM F. GILILLAND|b. 19 Feb 1841\nd. 13 Dec 1913|p2.htm#i74|ROSETTA MOORE|b. 26 Jan 1850\nd. 17 Dec 1915|p23.htm#i1132|
| Father | Robert Lois Raley b. 9 Oct 1870, d. 23 Sep 1915 |
| Mother | Lucy Lucinda Gililland b. 31 Oct 1878, d. 12 Jan 1956 |
Richard Lafayette Raley Alvy Smith (2) reports (letter dated June 9, 1990) that he knew Dick and his sister Elizabeth well. Dick was a lion hunter for the state [NM] and lived at Tularosa.
Headstone, Tularosa NM:
"Richard L Raley
New Mexico
Pvt US Army
World War II
Aug 19 1908 Nov 19 1971."
Richard was born at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 19 August 1908.1,2 He was the son of Robert Lois Raley and Lucy Lucinda Gililland. He married Jessie Johnson in December 1929.1 Richard died on 19 November 1971 at age 63. A Raley Story give 19 Nov 1972; headstone gives 19 Nov 1971.1,2 His body was interred at Tularosa, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Fairview Cemetery.2
Headstone, Tularosa NM:
"Richard L Raley
New Mexico
Pvt US Army
World War II
Aug 19 1908 Nov 19 1971."
Richard was born at Orogrande, Otero, New Mexico, USA, on 19 August 1908.1,2 He was the son of Robert Lois Raley and Lucy Lucinda Gililland. He married Jessie Johnson in December 1929.1 Richard died on 19 November 1971 at age 63. A Raley Story give 19 Nov 1972; headstone gives 19 Nov 1971.1,2 His body was interred at Tularosa, Otero, New Mexico, USA, at Fairview Cemetery.2
Family | Jessie Johnson |
Maggie Gray
F
She married Charles Everett "Jack" Abernathy.1
Family | Charles Everett "Jack" Abernathy b. 6 Nov 1893, d. 3 Jun 1990 |
Citations
- [S211] Unknown author, Giles County Journal.
Jack Abernathy Jr
M
Jack Abernathy Jr||p46.htm#i2299|Charles Everett "Jack" Abernathy|b. 6 Nov 1893\nd. 3 Jun 1990|p38.htm#i1855||||Wiley T. Abernathy Sr|b. 4 Mar 1860\nd. 10 Aug 1941|p38.htm#i1853|Lucy E. Sanders|b. 21 Oct 1874\nd. 10 Oct 1961|p37.htm#i1849|||||||
| Father | Charles Everett "Jack" Abernathy b. 6 Nov 1893, d. 3 Jun 1990 |
Jack Abernathy Jr is the son of Charles Everett "Jack" Abernathy.
Wiley Turner Abernathy Jr1
M
Wiley Turner Abernathy Jr||p46.htm#i2300|Wiley Turner Abernathy Sr|b. 4 Mar 1860\nd. 10 Aug 1941|p38.htm#i1853|Lucy E Sanders|b. 21 Oct 1874\nd. 10 Oct 1961|p37.htm#i1849|||||||Robert T. Sanders|b. 23 Aug 1821\nd. 7 Dec 1886|p35.htm#i1702|Nancy A. Cheatham|b. 21 Jul 1841\nd. 20 Nov 1886|p37.htm#i1817|
| Father | Wiley Turner Abernathy Sr b. 4 Mar 1860, d. 10 Aug 1941 |
| Mother | Lucy E Sanders b. 21 Oct 1874, d. 10 Oct 1961 |
Citations
- [S399] Unknown author, The Bellenfant Family (Bellefont, Bellenfaute, Ballanfant): Johnson, Sanders, Winn, McClaran, by Mrs. J A Wilkinson, 104 Bishop Street, Booneville, MS 38829, Mar 1981.
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